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January 30, 2020, 9:24pm
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Puma0382:
Embrace it.
Not taking it personally, just analyzed that you’re overlooking multiple aspects based on a short YouTube clip which simply showcases technical potential without exploration of the variabilities likely needed to dial in a final result. I’m hardly impressed by any music I hear used to showcase a DAW or a guitar performance showcasing a pedal, it typically sounds like royalty free music which it probably is - that doesn’t stop me from understanding the technical capabilities of the DAW or pedal and how I could utilize them. As someone who has used the software extensively, you’re blatantly overlooking some pretty obvious aspects and audio engineering philosophy here. If I had had this software with this particular feature 10 years ago when working on some very poor live recording mixes, these utilities likely would have helped me get at least a %10 better result, if not %50, but the %10 would have been worth the cost of the software - the end result might still not be great because of the source material being less than optimum - but better is better however slightly.
You’re looking at the feature as a sole-process finished result - it’s not necessarily. Almost none of the tools I use for deep sound-design for film get final results on their own.
How does my edit rest your case? I’m simply helping you by pointing out you’re looking at it wrong, maybe don’t take it personally and take a step back and give yourself an opportunity to rethink your approach and consensus and that might benefit you in your studio work.
chow for now.
Thanks - and thanks for taking the time with me…
I’ve plenty of experience to draw on from throughout my audio engineer career so far. I’m mainly involved in the folk music/roots music sphere, with a good deal of mixing live band performances - I know my way around putting an album or two together.! I rarely do film sound or creative sound-design projects; I have done and I do understand some of the techniques etc, but I appreciate that is quite a different skill-set required.
So, back to where this all started (‘am I using the app right’? lack of proper tutorial videos/real-world examples etc, etc). Seems, as Robin pointed out, these new, upcoming ‘official’ tutorials aren’t going to be any great shakes away from whats seen on videos already out there - I’m probably not missing out on any of the apps technical merits or use of the tools within (when we do eventually get to see them).
With that, I now know its not me; I was curious, I took a look. Results were ‘varied’ enough shall we say, during my trial run, to not make me seek any sort of ‘instant-buy’ approval from the label boss. Right now, this tool is not an essential need.
Cheers,
Cool man, totally understand - only use what you need. I’m downsizing more and more and being more critical of what I add to my system. To have Spectralayers part of the steinberg fam and to be able to just open it up to use the eraser to take out kick drum pedal squeek with the eraser tool is worth it for me.
Just wanted to make sure others reading the forum aren’t maybe getting the wrong idea of what to expect and with that particular function - you might just be looking to obtain some additional isolated splotches of frequency to then filter down more, compress, transient shape, and then blend in with the original track to mask some problems, etc, etc.
I think using that utility to tuck rap vocals into a 2-track instrumental by carving out space for the vocals is a better example of it being utilized in a more “finished sense”.
I have used RX Advanced fairly extensively yes.