As I said one I know is blue cat chorus…there’s a note sustainer that I downloaded and won’t get discovered by cubase. .I mistakenly downloaded halion 3& halion 1, and I think I need a disk for them…both halion se and groove agent show up now…but when I click on the halion se insert bar the virtual halion se doesn’t show up on the screen… still gotta fish around I guess…like I told an other member, I’m 68 old and a newbie at this but if I read and fish around I can get by…as for updates I’ll get to that…thanks…