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Entering figured bass under a rest

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:23 am
by JanSteele
Is there a way of entering figured bass under a part consisting of rests? I'm analysing something, and for convenience I would want the figured bass to always be under the lowest instrumental line, even if there are no notes in it.

Re: Entering figured bass under a rest

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:35 am
by benwiggy
Yes: there's a Property in the Panel to show figures on a rest.

Re: Entering figured bass under a rest

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:38 pm
by JanSteele
Hi Ben, what do you mean by the Panel? Do you mean in Note Input Options or Engraving Options. I've looked in both but I can't find it. Thanks

Re: Entering figured bass under a rest

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:42 pm
by pianoleo
No, the properties panel at the bottom of the main score/part editing screen.

Re: Entering figured bass under a rest

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:38 pm
by JanSteele
Do you mean the window I'm attaching a screenshot of? If so I've tried various combinations of things but I still can't get it to do what I want!

Re: Entering figured bass under a rest

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:52 pm
by JanSteele
I've looked in another thread on this topic, and it seems that "Show figured bass" is the operative factor. So I have this selected, and I have tried entering a figured bass on a half-note rest, and nothing happens. I can enter one ok under a note, but not under a rest.

Re: Entering figured bass under a rest

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:01 pm
by Daniel at Steinberg
You might be experiencing a small bug, JanSteele. If you want to zip up and attach your project so that we can take a look, I can say for certain. We have been continuing to do a lot of work on figured bass since the release of Dorico 3.5 in May, and a forthcoming update will include a number of fixes and further improvements.

Re: Entering figured bass under a rest

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:45 pm
by JanSteele
Ok Daniel, here it is. I was trying to put figures under the cello part from bar 2, beat 3.

Re: Entering figured bass under a rest

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:51 pm
by Daniel at Steinberg
The problem here, I think, is that Dorico has no notes on the cello staff to work from, so it's not clear what pitches the figures you are entering will relate to. Try adding some notes to the cello part, even if they are only there temporarily, then add the figures on those notes.

Re: Entering figured bass under a rest

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:53 pm
by JanSteele
If I do that then the figures get deleted if I then replace the notes with a rest. Obviously I can put the figures in an upper part, but when the cello enters they will all be under the lowest part, along with the roman numerals, and I'm trying to keep them all on the lowest stave for clarity, NB this is for analysis not for performance.

Re: Entering figured bass under a rest

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:43 pm
by Daniel at Steinberg
If the figures really aren't relative to any particular notes, you may need to consider adding the figures manually using Shift+X text, or perhaps lyrics, and the Figurato font. Dorico's figured bass features are really targeted at producing performing scores rather than analysis, and showing figures is dependent on having bass notes to work from.