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Copying playing techniques between projects

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:17 pm
by ptram
Hi,

I would like to copy an extensive set of playing techniques in a project, and would like to reuse them in all my projects.

Is there a way to copy them to a different project? Saving a partial endpoint configuration only limited to the Percussion VSTi, and adding it to the playback template, is not working. Then, I would like to merge the imported techniques into the general endpoint configuration.

Any idea?

Paolo

Re: Copying playing techniques between projects

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:44 pm
by ptram
Something I've tried is to make the original playing techniques favorites (marked with a star). Then, I resaved the endpoint configuration in the target project.

Alas, when removing the star, the new playing techniques disappeared. So, I'm still looking for a solution.

Paolo

Re: Copying playing techniques between projects

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:00 pm
by DaddyO
So far as I know the only way of making PT's (I assume you mean custom made) available to other projects is to mark them as favorites using the "star" button. This should make them show up in future projects, not sure that they can be made newly accessible in other projects already started.

I'm happy to stand corrected if anyone knows a way. I'd love it if we were able to export and import PT's and PPT's.

Re: Copying playing techniques between projects

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:53 am
by ptram
There are two things that I would find useful in how custom playing techniques and expression maps are managed:

1) Make a project self-contained. Every elements needed to play it should be in the project file, instead of partially residing in a general file than may change (and change the project).

2) Allow importing of playing techniques and expression maps from other project. A bit like InDesign allows for importing text styles from other documents.

I would also love a system allowing for instrument presets, self-containing all the playing styles and expression maps, in addition to range and names, of an individual instrument.

Paolo

Re: Copying playing techniques between projects

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:58 am
by ptram
Here is another problems:

- I edit my master template, and add a custom playing technique. Save the endpoint configuration, refresh the playback template.

- I then go to an existing project. To refresh the list of custom playing techniques, I should apply the edited playback template. But if do it, while using manually created custom instruments, I have all the manually created routing reset to the generic rules set in the playback template.

So, either I manually recreate the custom playing techniques (and playback techniques), or I manually recreate all the routing and instrument assignments.

Paolo

Re: Copying playing techniques between projects

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:11 am
by ptram
I found another problem, while trying to recreate my playing techniques in an existing project.

- From my master template, I edited and exported the expression maps.

- I then imported the edited expression maps into another project.

- When creating the missing playing technique again, I couldn't find the matching playback technique, so I created it again.

- In the Edit Expression Map dialog, however, I could see that the missing playback technique was there, with a different name. For example, "marcato sempre" is "pt.user.marcato_sempre" there. This playback technique doesn't appear in the list of playback techniques to be associated to a custom playing technique in the Edit Playback Playing Technique dialog.

The only solution I could find was to access to the old playback technique to change its name in the Edit Playback Playing Technique dialog, is to delete it and reprogram a new playback technique to replace it (and name it "marcato sempre" again).

Paolo

Re: Copying playing techniques between projects

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:45 am
by benwiggy
ptram wrote:
Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:53 am
1) Make a project self-contained. Every elements needed to play it should be in the project file, instead of partially residing in a general file than may change (and change the project).
As I understand it, every element needed by the file is in the file.

But yes, currently, copying custom Playing Techniques that use custom Playback Playing Techniques which are referenced in Expression Maps from one project to another is not easy.

Re: Copying playing techniques between projects

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:41 pm
by seetha
Hi

Here I posted some of the techniques

Open the menu options on a single file/folder by clicking the three dots and select Copy To... from the dropdown. Hold Command (Mac)/Ctrl (Windows) to select multiple items to copy and then select the Copy To... option.

Next, select the destination to copy the asset to by using the search bar or expand folders in the menu. Create a new folder as well if a new location is needed. Filters can be applied as well to specify folders, projects or teams to search for.

Check off the option to Copy with Comments to copy the comments with the asset. Deselecting this will copy a clean version of the asset with no comments attached. Click Copy to confirm the new location.

Re: Copying playing techniques between projects

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:57 pm
by Daniel at Steinberg
When you export expression maps, the playing techniques that are referenced by the expression map are not exported, but when you create a playback template, all of the necessary playing techniques and playback playing techniques are included in the playback template. That's at present the only practical way to move a particular set of playing techniques from one project to another.