longer samples have slow tremelo effect

[Valentios]

Is it possible to play a sample while keeping the volume constant?
Very short loops dont have the ''fade in and out effect'' that I get with
long samples ( for example a sustained strings sample will fading out and in, slowly.

Hans

[Majic]

yes.

im getting this too.

trying my hardest to use it as a basic sampler...

not found a solution yet

[Rotund]

I think the fading in and out has to do with the duration of the grain.
The sample is always playing back using grains and they have a certain duration.
Even at the longest duration setting, it is still a grain (slice) that has a set length.
So it fades in and out at the beginning and end of the grain, no way around that.
Adding another grain stream with the right offset can hide the fades to some extent.

That is my guess anyway...

[irrelevance]

I think the fading in and out has to do with the duration of the grain.
The sample is always playing back using grains and they have a certain duration.
Even at the longest duration setting, it is still a grain (slice) that has a set length.
So it fades in and out at the beginning and end of the grain, no way around that.
Adding another grain stream with the right offset can hide the fades to some extent.

That is my guess anyway...

I think you're right here Rotund and I wonder how hard it would be to write some extra code to include a signal path (at the start of the chain) for the unaltered sample file to run into a mixer parallel with the altered version? And if we're really dreaming here then an extra signal path for the unaltered sample to run into the filter with mod options like envelopes, lfo's etc and the ability to then feedback this signal to the chain start But really would be nice Steinberg to at least allow a mix of unaltered and grain altered samples. Hope you're listening

[benmcc]

If I remember correctly to get the sample to play without the fading you need to set the grain number to 8 (or whatever the full amount is), speed to 100%, spread / random etc to 0. Not at home right now but you can get it to play back samples like a normal sampler.

[mpayne0]

^ I'll try that.

I have also had a hard time trying to set up my own initialize patch where I can play 1 to 1 audio (what comes in is what comes out) but I've often got that drifty sound. I feel like I'm sometimes able to get rid of it, but not sure what I'm doing.

Right now I'm not completely a master with all the parameters but I think being able to start from a completely unprocessed waveform would be a start, unfortunately I can't seem to zero out the thing to get just the clean audio.

[mpayne0]

I think the fading in and out has to do with the duration of the grain.
The sample is always playing back using grains and they have a certain duration.
Even at the longest duration setting, it is still a grain (slice) that has a set length.
So it fades in and out at the beginning and end of the grain, no way around that.
Adding another grain stream with the right offset can hide the fades to some extent.

That is my guess anyway...

I think you're right here Rotund and I wonder how hard it would be to write some extra code to include a signal path (at the start of the chain) for the unaltered sample file to run into a mixer parallel with the altered version? And if we're really dreaming here then an extra signal path for the unaltered sample to run into the filter with mod options like envelopes, lfo's etc and the ability to then feedback this signal to the chain start But really would be nice Steinberg to at least allow a mix of unaltered and grain altered samples. Hope you're listening

That's almost too much, it would take the secret weapon aspect out. It's a perfect idea, maybe too perfect!

[mpayne0]

Hi guys,

I have had some difficult times but a lot of happy accidents with this synth!

The best way I have found to retain some semblance of the original sample, or at least a better starting point is to first load one of the sustaining presets, then replace the audio file with yours. Try a few different
synth and waveform samples.
It may not give you exactly what you want, but the turnaround rate is a lot better than fiddling around.

[irrelevance]

Hi guys,

I have had some difficult times but a lot of happy accidents with this synth!

The best way I have found to retain some semblance of the original sample, or at least a better starting point is to first load one of the sustaining presets, then replace the audio file with yours. Try a few different
synth and waveform samples.
It may not give you exactly what you want, but the turnaround rate is a lot better than fiddling around.

Good to hear mpayne0! Haven't fired up padshop in a while. Did the trick that benmcc suggest actually work? I will have a play around with it tonight.

[mpayne0]

Good to hear mpayne0! Haven't fired up padshop in a while. Did the trick that benmcc suggest actually work? I will have a play around with it tonight.

Its tough. I really want to love this one but it just keeps fighting back!

Gonna have to agree with the idea of some sort of internal parallel config, because there is not much use for a sound that tremolos in and out... its just an unmusical non rhythmic effect that Padshop keeps spitting out, it becomes a waste of time and spirit killer. Generally, programming a sound out of a synth is fun and inspiring as you work towards great results. Padshop is fun, but you're never really rewarded for your effort. I think that is an inherent problem with this synth, unless they do something, its going to die on my HDD. I'm just not going to pull out this synth for short stabby sounds, I've got better stuff for that.